I was in net for...Steve Smith's Game 7 blunder
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- In episode 13, Rob Pizzo speaks to former Oilers goalie Grant Fuhr about one of the most infamous gaffes in playoff history.
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What sucks is Steve smith will always be remembered as “the guy who scored on his own net” and sadly won’t be remembered for the great top 4 d man that he actually was
Keep that memory alive!
Completely agree.
Yep.
I don't blame Smith for losing the game & the series. Edmonton had over 14 minutes and a powerplay to get it back.
Bill Buckner.
The Oilers had over 14 minutes to tie the game. They had the #1 ranked offence, Gretzky, and a last minute powerplay (0:35 seconds). Calgary had all the confidence coming into that series after drubbing Edmonton 9-3 in the very last Regular season Game (Edmonton had won the first 6 meetings and tied the 7th meeting) . Calgary won 3 Games in Edmonton and lost the other in OT. In the 4 games they lost Edmonton only averaged 1.5 goals a game.
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@@altqq1755 lol
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Such a shame he's remembered for that play. He went on to play 15 years and won three Stanley cups. That's what he should be remembered for
Truth!
Passing in front of your own net was a cardinal sin in pee-wee.
Gretzky being the Awesome person he is looking for Smith with that next cup! Walter and Mrs. Gretzky were Awesome parents 👏 ❤
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Wayne was not only a great hockey player he is a wonderful person and a terrific ambassador of the game. But as spectacular as he was he wasn't my favorite player that's for sure.
what a class act
Grant, classy guy
Would like to see Antti Nemi for Datsyuk’s shootout flip, great episode
He is on the list Dallas, trying to track him down (can be the toughest part!)
Great idea
Grant is an all time beauty. Always a favorite of mine.
He was great to talk to. Really nice guy!
Mine as well. Broke my heart to see him in a Flames jersey.
That could have happened to anyone. Steve was a good very steady defenceman, and had a great career.🙂
I know the Oilers could use a guy like Steve Smith on their blue line right now!! 😐
He would've been the hockey equivalent of Bill Buckner had the Oil not won the Cup the following season!!
@@wilnerolivier7971 Poor Bill Buckner. His own reputation could've been saved had his teammate, Dave Henderson, not burned Donnie Moore and the Angels with that one-strike-from-the-World Series home run.
...and Donnie Moore! Aw, man.
With Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Coffey, Anderson, Fuhr, and so many other excellent pros like Tikkanen, MacTavish, and a young Jeff Beukeboom, they should be expected to win every year.
4 Cups in 5 years is pretty good!
A lot of people forget about Moog and Huddy. Moog was an elite starter in his own right, and that’s why him and Fuhr played back-to-back. Give one a game off, throw the other one in. Huddy was one of the best stay-at-home defensemen in the NHL at the time. Coffey and Huddy were each other’s young to their yang.
@@oilersridersbluejays Moog was the goalie of record for the Oilers first ever Stanley Cup win in 1984! His career has been underrated a bit in my opinion 😐
@@SirManfly underrated yes I will agree. His work with the Bruins was great.Fuhr pretty well took them most of the way that year in 1984. Fuhr was unbeatable in that shutout win obviously before being injured in game 3 of the finals.
Isles fan. Don't forget Mcsorely, Lowe, Craig Simpson, Krushelnyski and Ranford winning a Conne Smythe.
Isles fan during the dynasty. Grant Fuhr is one of the greatest goalies ever. That Game 1 performance in 1984 Finals (1-0) win was the most frustrated I've ever been watching an opposing goalie.
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Hearing the Flames fans shout out "SHOOOOOOOOT!!" every time Smith touched the pick from then on always made me chuckle.😄
Montreal took care of Calgary for you
Back when Canadian teams still dominated...
Why don’t they interview the “scorer” as well.
Everyone’s spoken to the goal scorer. We went the other way for a fresh story.
Great to see Mr Fuhr chatting away.., pretty charismatic fellow on top of being an amazing goalie
Gawd, as an 11 year old this game just killed me, it hurt so much to loose to the Flames like that. Still kinda stings all these years later, lol
Still kind of stings all these years later when the Oiler beat the Islanders ending their reign as champions and claiming their first of too many cups.
Every defenseman's nightmare.
I worked at a place that made golf putters and met Steve in 02' or 03'. The rep that was taking care of him knew me and the other guy in the office were big hockey fans & mentioned ahead of time that he was still pretty touchy about the incident & I guess was worried that we might say something that would bother him.
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Same
I remember this and just felt sick for steve. Shlt happens!
Indeed it does!
I remember this as a kid, oh god ... I can't imagine how awful Steve felt from this. You can see him just collapse and want to curl up and die. Hockey fans can be so ruthless, and the knuckleheads are always the loudest. No matter how angry the fans were, I guarantee nobody was as mad as him, it' just bad luck. You compare that to the bone-headed no look give away passes a couple of Leafs made in the first round that ended up being the difference in both teh 21 and 22' playoffs. smh
This historic moment in hockey is the reason why goalies today now tuck themselves inside their own net when their defenseman has the puck behind their net.
The Buckner comparison is a very fair for Steve Smith, except Bill never got that close to a title again. Buckner's mistake came in Game 6 after the Red Sox gave up 2 runs with 2 outs. There was still more to be played, as in Game 7. Smith's gaffe came with still 15 minutes left. It is a note that gets forgotten and as the story got passed down you thought it happened in the final minute or overtime. You had one of the greatest offenses in the history of the NHL and they could not get a goal, plus they lost 2 other home games at Northlands to Calgary in that series. Smith took way too much blame, but it seemed like the Oiler players never threw him under the bus.
Keep the memory alive!
As a defenseman, one of the most frustrating things can be guys on your own team who obstruct your passing lanes. Goalies don't often do that but the game is very fast and you want all of your options open. Here, in restrospect, Fuhr could have been one stride quicker to a space where he wasn't in the way at all. Smith was under pressure, and he must not have thought he had time to take another stride, perhaps because the cross ice passing lane was closing. The game is too complicated to lay blame on individuals.
smith was not under pressure there was nobody even there what u talking about? LOL
if they were under pressure why would fuhr be out handling the puck lol
Oilers should have won six in a row instead of this mishap.
Shoulda woulda coulda. If they were sooooo good, the game would not be tied after 40 and this series would also be a sweep...
@@macioluko9484 Thank you. The Oilers were good but their defense stunk. They set records for being the highest scoring team, well over 300 goals a season but they also allowed over 300 a season. A Stanley cup winning team should not be allowing that many goals throughout the season. Numbers don't lie.
@@carlgustav945 So true. They were great. Of that there is no doubt but the beauty of hockey is, like you said, you have to be great on both ends of the ice.
It could have been 5 in a row.
One of the best goals in Flames history
And the beautiful thing was, we just let it happen on its own. Talk about self-control!
It was my understanding that Perry Berezan, the Flames' player who was eventually credited with scoring the goal, has a younger sister who was still attending high school in Edmonton at the time and found herself the target of backlash from some of her peers in the aftermath of this game.
I really hope everybody has a chance to be part of a hockey family it's something that will never be surpassed by hardly anything. It truly is a second family
Well said!
I am just picking up on this channel LOVE it and I LOVE my Hockey !!! Great insight unlike today with Center Ice Package you didn't have that in the 80's plus no major TV networks contracts with the NHL , Weather Oilers , Flames NHL fan you won't forget Steve Smith who really turned out to be a Good Player but will ALWAYS be known who this !!
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That's how life really is. No one wa going to beat the oilers. Then the Habs got their 23rd cup. You can't explain this stuff. But you can keep this in mind for everything in life.
If you beat the Oilers in the 80's it was something that you will always talk about. 4 stories that I come to mind. #1 LA Kings miracle on Manchester. Biggest upset in playoff history. #2 Islanders beat them. Gretzky and Lowe after the loss get on the bus and say to each other, that is the difference between winning and losing. Their players won and they are wounded. We lost and we're fine. #3 Steve accidentally put the puck in off FUHR. #4 Losing Gretzky to the Kings. Plus having a 3-1 series lead and losing in 7. My point? They learned from their mistakes and came back to win. That's what made them the greatest team in NHL history.
It’s quite the legacy, for sure!
I don't know if I would go that far. In the conversation for sure but I know there are oodles of NY Islanders and Montreal Canadiens fans who would be willing to challenge that comment. Yes some Leafs fans too but let's be realistic. I wasn't referring to the off season golf tournaments that the Maple Leafs were always so well prepared for.
Steve Smith eventually played parts of three seasons with the Flames at the tail-end of his career, serving as captain, and spent a season as assistant coach as well.Apr. 30, 2020
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Grant Fuhr is one of the better goalies during that time period... When net-minding was a tough gig. The equipment sucked, and the coaching was nowhere near the level it is today.
Grant was ahead of his time.
Every save he made was a highlight reel type stop!
Agreed. Moog was no slacker neither. You could argue that he was better than Fuhr. Personally, I think it’s an apples to oranges comparison. Fuhr was more reckless and a great stick handler. Moog planted himself in the crease and never ventured out to play the puck.
@@oilersridersbluejays moog was never better then fuhr lmao. Fuhr would make the big saves key times at games what moog could never really do. Moog was a good goalie but fuhr was great. And ask most oiler fans. When fuh rwas in net he usually played the tougher compeition and oliers went more out when he was back there. Moog wasnt even the 2nd best goalie oilers had. Bill ranford was number 2 and heck id even take joseph over moog and joseph only played a few seasons here.
One of the best fuhr
I was in net Fuhr...
HAHAHA I wish I thought of that!
#pungoals
This was a great episode, and it’s true that Edmonton bought out the best in Calgary. But the teams weren’t evenly matched. The Oilers were much better than Calgary. Calgary played the series of their lives. They held nothing back. They were physical. They hit Edmonton and weren’t intimidated by them. But Edmonton should have won that series in at most six games. Probably the best thing that happened to Calgary was acquiring John Tonelli and Joe Mullen at the trade deadline in March. They bought a lot to the team. Also Peplinski and Otto were physical players who were intimidating. The Flames had lots of grit and quite a bit of talent, but the Oilers were significantly superior.
Very accurate description. The Flames were favourites to win in 1988, and the Oilers proved the pundits wrong quite handily that year.
@@oilersridersbluejays I think many Oilers will tell you that was one of the highlights of their careers. Nobody was expecting that. It was a blowout, especially the final two games In Edmonton.
@@oilersridersbluejays Philip Glass > Beethoven
Yep that's pretty much how I remember it. No denying Edmonton was the most talented team in the league.
@@buffalobill9793 by quite a bit too.
As a 9 year old during that time, that was one of the worst days of my life up to then LOL. The funny thing was, for the rest of his career in Edmonton whenever Smith had the puck behind the Oilers net when they played Calgary, the Flames fans would yell “Shoooooooot!” The Oiler fans would do the same every time a Flame had the puck behind their net. This would actually go on for several years even after Smith was traded in 1991.
At the time, I arrogantly assumed that the Oilers were going to easily win it all again that year, so it was unsettling to see Calgary play them so evenly in that series. It all came down to the final frame of game 7... whoever won that third period would move on to the next round... and incredibly, the Flames didn't even have to score their own winning goal! (The irony... the highest scoring team eliminating themselves with an own-goal!)
I got to stay up late on a school night to watch that game
This was always bullshit, get over it! 14:46 remained in the game. His head was up looking to pass. Fuhr lazily headed back to the crease. It was just bad luck.
Sounds like you haven't gotten over it...
How about doing a I was in net for Messier's game 6 hat trick guarantee in the '94 eastern conference final??
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I watched this live lol. Oh yeah the memories. Smith ended up playing for the Flames at the end of his career.
So did Fuhr.
Flames fan here. Always liked Grant Fuhr. He actually finished his career in Calgary.
Oh and Smith later played for the Flames too, and was even the captain for a season.
It's not like the Oilers didn't have time to score after this fiasco. If they had scored two more goals, Steve Smith's name would have been totally forgotten.
You guys should try and get Jon Casey for the Steve Yzerman goal in double OT
Casey also could talk about Mario goal in ‘91.
Why? Casey didn't do anything wrong. It was just a perfectly placed laser.
@@fantasticvoyage262 still it was from like outside the blue line and he saw it the whole way
@@jacobolson6145 Nah, he was screened by Baron. No shame giving up a OT goal to a HOF'er.
As a fan of the NY Islanders it's safe to say I didn't cheer for the Oilers but living in Canada I knew lots who did. Thanks to Steve Smith the next day I mailed more sympathy cards than I've sent the whole rest of my life combined. This is one of those few special moments in life where I can remember where I was and who was watching with me. Thanks for the memories Steve.
The Oilers were so good and had so many cups......only that team was able to blow that season like that and just be able to shrug it off and say "no worries boys, we'll win the cup next year"....lol
The Flames repayed both Fuhr and Smith at the end of their careers with contacts to become Flames before retirement.
0:35 "the Edmonton oilers were LITERALLY sitting on top of the world." I'd say they were more playing hockey on the surface of it.
He LITERALLY used the word literally wrong 😅
Lot of respect for Wayne. Solid dude.
Pretty good hockey player too.
@@HouseOfHockey14 Wasn't bad!!
You don't know what literally means. Carry-on.
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These videos are fantastic!! Please keep them coming. 👌
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Oilers had almost 15 minutes to come back, but could not do it.
Grant Fuhr is a wonderful man. I'd love to meet him.
I bled hot oil out of my veins that day. 🇨🇦
Grant Fuhr is a legend
Yep, that was painful to watch... But stuff happens.
I have no idea why Smith was trying to pass there so close to his net. But the gaffe had to be somewhat easier to stomach winning the Stanley Cup the next 2 years.
the Oilers finished 30 pts ahead of Calgary and had 16 more regular-season wins--yet lost in this series in 7 games (a series they should have easily won)--just shows how really useless Glen Sather was a coach--it was his job to keep his team focused and not fall into "overconfidence" and that clearly was what cost them this series
4:28. Remember when the term "goat" in sports meant a failure, not the greatest athlete in his/her sport?
Indeed.
that was the only way calgary could beat us
But Edmonton was never ahead in wins during that epic playoff series; if Anderson hadn't have scored in OT in game 2, the Flames may have won in five. Anyway, by accentuating defense, the Oilers won three more Cups, so maybe that upset loss was a good thing long-term.
@@daviddrabick9018Well said!
I watched that game when it happened. Totally not Grant Fuhr's fault. He was in his crease and Steve Smith had control of the puck. It was _his_ responsibility to control where his pass went. Having said that, it was obviously an accident and I'm sure he felt horrible about it. I'm sure some fans really blamed him for that too, which is just sad.
Thanks for watching! We were so happy he took the time to talk to us.
@@CBCSports Definitely! And I'm _equally_ glad that CBC took the time to make these great videos! I'm reliving so many good hockey memories from my childhood!
I was to see the winnig goal by Alec Martinez
Patrick Roy game 7. 03 against the wild pls
That would be a big get.
Keep these episodes coming!!
Glad you like them. I'm in the middle of editing another one as we speak!
Stay tuned!
Can you try to get Jonas Hiller for Stamkos's bat in? Would be cool
Steve Smith was a Hell of a D- Man !!!!!
First you don.t pass in front of the net
The Oilers never should have lost this series to the Flames and would have easily gone on to win the 1986 Stanley Cup vs Montreal. The Habs would have next to no chance against the Oilers' offensive juggernaut, even with rookie Patrick Roy in net for Montreal.
This series vs the Flames shows how important it is to win your games on home ice in the playoffs.
Steve Smith is the luckiest guy to live before the internet.
Edit: After Bill Buckner
True say! Could have been way worse!
@@CBCSports thanks for these great videos
Imagine Twitter today if that happened.
Steve Smith, Bill Buckner, Scott Norwood, not into basketball, all terrible moments, all great players who messed up. Just like us in real life!
Too bad for Wayne. It would've been his 3rd cup. The following year would've been his 4th!
Oh wow i didn't realize Smith was a rookie that season.
Just entered a bar in west end of Edmonton as this goal was scored and a fan threw his picture of beer at the monitor..breaking it and the bar broke out in a fit of rage...long story short..we we're all shown the door...lol..
I'm sure that wasn't the only TV that was broken that night.
To this day when I play NHL 94 as All Stars East I pull Roy and put in Fuhr. Doesn't matter who's hot or cold.
Stick with what works!
Great series
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"No one remembers number two..."
The Flames won the championship off of 🐂💩 lol
Its incredible, I’m from NYC and was 12 when this game happened. I remember only reading a caption to a photo of Smith in the paper a day later but in all this time I had no idea the own goal was scored was in regulation with minutes to go. I always thought it was in OT!
In all actuality there was still 14:00 left. The oilers still had 3/4 of a period to win.
After all these years and I watched the game live but those last 14 minutes are nothing more than a blur now as too thought it was game 7 ot.
Would’ve been nice to see the play bigger on the screen, instead of your mug taking up the screen.
How about Osgood for Jamie Baker's Game 7 winner in 94?
This series idea is great!
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@2:25 you mean “infamous” @cbc sports
The collection of talent this team had. The fact they won 5 Cups was an underachievment
they should of won more i agree. Messier anderson fuhr left then kurri left year before and if they some how kept all those players together who knows how many more they coulod of won
I sure hope Steve's second career as a Ship Captain is going better for...... never mind
Again, I am loving these videos. A friendly suggestion: Martin Brodeur being in net for Stephane Matteau's goal in double overtime of game seven (1994 ECF). Who can ever forget Sam Rosen's famous call? Matteau! Matteau! Matteau!!!
Howie Rose made that call on the radio.
@@mariomorgado8569 : Oh that's right. My bad.
Goat sure had a different meaning back then
Time heals all wounds? 🐐
@@CBCSports definitely! But goat used to be short for scapegoat. Now it is an acronym for Greatest Of All Time.
The unabated destruction, misuse and overuse of the word 'literally' makes me so sad.
"The Edmonton Oilers were literally on top of the world" means that there was a world that had a top to it and the Edmonton Oilers were physically sitting on it. 'On top of the world' is a FIGURE of speech. To apply the word literally to a figure of speech is to denote that the normal figurative meaning behind the phrase is denotatively true, which is unusual given the connotative meaning behind most figures of speech. The Edmonton Oilers were NOT literally sitting on top of the world. They were FIGURATIVELY sitting on top of the world because sitting on top of the world is a figure of speech that connotes the meaning of winning and success.
I know I'm typing this into the cesspit that is the RUclips comments section, but this drives me nuts and it's getting worse by the day. If you don't understand the difference between the definitions of the words literal and figurative, then maybe you shouldn't be broadcasting content to the entire world. 0/10 thumbs down. Which is a shame because I love Grant Fuhr.
You must be fun at parties!
They were literally on top of the hockey world then
You ever use the term "Sunrise"? Same thing here.
58 seconds in you said swept in 3 games you mean 4 lol
This was in 1986, when the first round was still best of 5. So a sweep only took 3 games.
Did we?
I seen Grant Fuhr play live and he is a legend.
Hey--Lanny finally got a chip. Thats what counts. 😀
Does anybody need any further proof that Gretzky is a brilliant human being? Handing Smith the cup the year after. A team is more than one person, even if you're the greatest ever.
It's a good thing the Oil won the Cup or else Smith would've been hockey's version of Bill Buckner!!
Wow
Yup!
4:40 Did the Flames almost return the favour? Looks like the Flames almost put it off their goalie.
It does. LOL That would have been hilarious if it happened twice in one game.
they coulda had 5 cups in a row too
You have to ask how this series got to seven games in the first place. Edmonton was so much the better team.
Fuhr’s right. We could lose every other game but as long as we beat Calgary everytime it’s a good season. 5-77-0? Great season if we beat Calgary 5 out of 5 time.
Two things that have made the game more popular in recent years. A high degree of parity from team to team and the absence of Dynastic Teams like the Oilers of the 80's. Great for Edmonton (and the Islanders, the Canadians in turn but awful for fans at large and worse for TV ratings. Therefore Steve Smith can go ahead and blame the Hockey Gods for that fluke of all fluke goals.They were just looking to give some other club a chance to win it all.
Calgary narrowly escaped the next round against St.Louis. Blowing a 3 goal lead in Game 6 and winning Game 7 2-1
Watching this even after all these years is like a punch to the guts.
Thanks for watching!